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Xorena · Jul 30, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

We've been trying to meet new people, so one of my adverts in HA and TA is "husb/wife duo seeks to meet group of mature people to pvp with regularly" and you wouldn't believe the inane and rude comments I get back. "OMG you let your wife play?" (Hey buddy I'm the wife) to "Mature? so you want to talk about sex?" (uh, no, mature is not a measure of what crude topic you choose for discussion, rather, what you choose not to talk about). Or we get on vent/ts with these supposed "mature people" are bragging about smoking dope or start hitting on me as soon as they find out I am a woman.

I am so close to fed up. I just want to pvp as a team with people who don't want to talk about pot and sex all the time.

On a side note, I believe a huge downfall to this game is they don't charge a nominal monthly fee. At least a monthly fee would keep the kiddies out who can't do anything without mommy or daddy's credit card.

Anyway, thank you for letting me vent. Argh.

Bryant Again · Jul 30, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Generally, people who play video games are kids. Hence...immaturity : / . But yes! There are mature people playing out there...they're just, um, hard to find beneath all those immature ones.

Sorry it sucks though, but very few people on here are immature, so you're in luck!

fiery · Jul 30, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Many kiddies have their own credit card or beg their parents to pay it for them, I seen many of them in WoW.

Best bet is to make your own group on TS and Vent and learn builds to play.

Winx.ZN · Jul 30, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

i dont think anyone cares wether you are hubby and wife or tom and jerry. too much info. "2 people looking to pvp" nuff said.
so you consider yourself "done" with pve? join a pvp guild.
GW is full of immature people, and sadly its not always the "kiddies"
I have had more than my share of older "mature" people who are more annoying than 3 teen school girls talking about leonardo di caprio when titanic was just out.
Charing a fee does not equal end to immaturity.
Go to TA with your husband, on a very regular basis, join random groups get good at what you do. Soon enough youll bump into someone who you can tolerate and can tolerate you. Good players are in high demand and you will probably start getting added to friends lists. You should add to f-list too. Rinse and repeat.
Finding a good pvp group is not unlike farming, it takes many tries, patience and being good at it before you reap the rewards. Good Luck.

Venice Queen · Jul 30, 2006, 02:56 AM // 02:56

People think if you dont fame farm to get to a certain rank you have no idea how to play the game... :P

/blames IWAY

kvndoom · Jul 30, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Are you part of a guild? If you aren't, you should advertise that you wish to join a mature PVP guild that caters to beginners. Then you're more likely to get paired with your peers, and won't have as much difficulty forming groups at different times of the day. Also, get good at your build (may consider doing some RA to perfect your skills), and when you win a lot, people notice. Successful PVP'ers make new friends fast.

Video gaming is heavily male-oriented, so the sexism will always be there.

Xorena · Jul 30, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

We are currently guilded, yes, but everyone quit to go back to WOW I think (been there done that, not going back). I've always thought (re: video games) I'd rather have a nice person who can't play well than a person who thinks they know everything and treats people like crap. You can teach the nice person to play well and you'll probably have a much better time.

As for people not caring if we're married? Maybe they don't care but I do and that's why I mention it.

Morrandir Gurthring · Jul 30, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

*waves*

I'm young, but mature, from what I'm told. My guild's the same way. It's currently a collection of real-life friends, but we're talking about expanding. We're all still trying to get geared up so we can actually be competitive, but we do use PvP chars once in a while. Everyone is still struggling to get to TA (Curse the 5 consecutive win in RA rule!), though.

So fear not, there are true 'mature' people out there. But as Bryant Again said, you've got to do some looking

Canadian Bacon · Jul 30, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

I am not a PvPer at all, but I'm sure everyone will agree with the following statement:

PvE is filled with just as many immature people as PvP, hence PUGing has become rather unpopular as of late.

I am still a PUGer (It gets pretty lonely with Henchies), and I run into this all the time. It truly is unavoidable. I am not female, so I really can't relate to your situation in that way, but I am a youth- 15, to be exact. I like to think of myself as being above childish things, as a guy preparing for adulthood should be, but I get lumped in with the stereotype all the time when I tell people how old I am. Usually I earn my respect, and break out of that mould fairly quickly.

Unfortunately, that staerotype isn't entirely innacurate. Case in point; I recently had the displeasure of doing some quests in the Undercity with a kid who, according to information he himself privided between screams about coffee, is 10 years old and addicted to caffeine. I think I've said enough already.

Monthly fees definitely do not guarantee an end to the stupidity. For one, a large portion of the player base, inculding myself, would leave the game. Secondly, as previously mentioned, many youths either have their own credit cards, or parents who don't mind using theirs. A good example of this can be seen in the video that has been circulating the web for some time now, where a kid playing on Xbox Live was recorded having an argument with his mother. Harsher words were spoken by that little boy than most people would dare say to any of their elders, let alone a mother. Yells were exchanged by both parties, and I imagine many feelings hurt, all in the name of chocolate-milk before bedtime, and whether or not the boy should be allowed to have some.

wilebill · Jul 30, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

The mature people are around. Perhaps we should form our own guild!

Playing since release of GW, I've found that the only way to stay calm is a large dose of tolerance mixed with patience.

WoW charges a monthly fee, but on WoW I've seen similar rude and crude behavior and immaturity, just less of it. I think the real difference is that GW and Factions is just one huge server for the US and you rarely meet up with the same people on a regular basis unless they are in your guild. With WoW, it is broken up into a large number of servers, so people you meet are part of your neighborhood. So people are more polite and considerate on the average.

That being said, I have found the GW community usually helpful, friendly, and polite. It is the exceptions that make us all miserable at times.

slappy · Jul 30, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Sometimes it seems like there are only 10 or so players over the age of 21, but i'm sure that the real number is a little larger than that. We just tend to have less time to devote to the game, hence a high proportion of us are offline.

Storm Crow · Jul 30, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

I agree with you, Xonrena, there are too many immature people allowed to play this game. I've been told many times by guildies and strangers alike that I'm extremely mature for the young age of 13. Infact, I once did a mission with a PUG, and they were constantly complaining about how immature people are, and complimenting me on my skill, and no doubt I told them of my age just before we hit the ending cinematic, and they were entirely surprised.

I am a currently active PvP'er, ranging from Warrior to Elementalist, with enough experiences with immaturity to fill the Grand Canyon, and I'm trypically available unless I'm clearing the Fissure with guildies. Message me any time you're interested in a bit of mature PvP: Garria or Alicia Stormcrow

PS: My parents also play, and they're part of the older group of players. My mother typically doesn't excentuate the subject, but Dad's known to bring it up occasionally, and no one really seems to care. I have gotten an "OMG!! Your parents play?! I'd kill for that!!" a few times though

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felinette · Jul 30, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Xorena, I feel your pain. I was thinking about this myself after spending some time in pre-searing today. For a game that has a policy against using sexual terms and sex talk, it's pretty bad. If I had children, they would not be allowed near GW until Anet makes more of an effort to clean things up beyond relying on players to report it. I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination, but when the game allows children as young as 13 to play, it's really disturbing to see players asking others to PM them for sex, etc. I was in Ascalon City earlier and 90% of chat was sexual in nature. I'm tempted to turn off local chat from now on--think I will.

I agree with Xorena that the no subscription fee means there is probably a disproportionate number of young folks playing GW. I don't equate young with immature--just making an observation.

Demesis · Jul 30, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

/semi-sarcasm
If you want to avoid this kind of behaviour, go play Runescape.
/end semi-sarcasm

Which does have a slight ring of truth to it. It may be hard for you all to believe, but people in Runescape don't pass out as much racial, sexual, personal abuse as you see in Guild Wars.

I just learn to be twice as bad in this game. That's why I don't feel bad when I abuse someone or make a complete ass of myself.

Ken Dei · Jul 30, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21

The maturity level of the entire world is continuously collapsing in on itself. In both the virtual and real world. People just keep doing stupid things for increasingly stupid reasons on all levels of society in all aspects of life.

All empires collapse in time, and humanity in and of itself is the greatest empire on the planet.

bigwig · Jul 30, 2006, 04:32 AM // 04:32

xorena, you're just going to have to find yourself another guild. Theres immature people of all sorts in every game. Best to situate yourself with people of like mind. I'm in alliance knights where we tend to be comfortable with husband and wife teams. Feel free to check us out and our forums, or not.

Doomlord_Slayermann · Jul 30, 2006, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xorena

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

We've been trying to meet new people, so one of my adverts in HA and TA is "husb/wife duo seeks to meet group of mature people to pvp with regularly" and you wouldn't believe the inane and rude comments I get back. "OMG you let your wife play?" (Hey buddy I'm the wife) to "Mature? so you want to talk about sex?" (uh, no, mature is not a measure of what crude topic you choose for discussion, rather, what you choose not to talk about). Or we get on vent/ts with these supposed "mature people" are bragging about smoking dope or start hitting on me as soon as they find out I am a woman.

I am so close to fed up. I just want to pvp as a team with people who don't want to talk about pot and sex all the time.

On a side note, I believe a huge downfall to this game is they don't charge a nominal monthly fee. At least a monthly fee would keep the kiddies out who can't do anything without mommy or daddy's credit card.

Anyway, thank you for letting me vent. Argh.

Yeah, here's a couple points I would like to make:

Local chat is FTL.
Kiddies are annoying, but someone has to loose to you in PvP
If you think idiots who talk about Marijuana are annoying, wait until you talk to people who won't stop drinking the Mountain Dew/Red Bull/Expresso.
Forums are FTW. Get in a guild by posting in the "Looking for Guild?" thread here. That is the best way to get into a good guild, period.

X of Thulcandra · Jul 30, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

"ohemgee a [email protected] cann i seckz u up??? Lolz!!"

Try finding a PVP oriented guild, PUG's are a waste of time usually (in my experiences, at least).

Fox Reeveheart · Jul 30, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59

If you don't like it then go pay your monthly fee with WoW.

I love being mature and having people like me for it. But the reason I play this game is BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF MONTHLY FEES. And EVERYONE KNEW when they heard of GW before it was released that it had no monthly fees as it was a huge headline. So hopefully some people thought ahead and thinked "all the young kids will be on here".

So yeah, i'm sorry all of them are giving you a tough time... but you have to just deal with it. >.< sorry for coming off as rude right there.

IrishCatholicNewYorker · Jul 30, 2006, 05:04 AM // 05:04

I have to agree that there are alot of immature users on GW... however there are alot more mature players on it. They just don't stand out bc there not out talking in local chat about things no one wants to hear. Just advertise that you want to join a mature (if need be adult guild). And if your annoyed with immature users (and your not alone) turn off local chat when your in a town with immature players.